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There is no question whatsoever that agencies of the United States government are withholding

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UFO information.

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Government should make public all of its records on this or any other subject.

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People here are still afraid to talk.

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They're afraid they're going to get blown away if they say anything.

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From the boundaries of the universe to the depth of your soul.

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Embark on a journey through the unknown and unexplained as we explore mysteries, magic

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and miracles.

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Hello, I'm Patrick McNeigh.

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For those who've studied the phenomenon of UFOs, the question isn't whether they

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exist or not.

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It's how much the government knows about their existence.

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The answer?

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Probably a lot more than the government admits.

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In 1947, something crashed in a remote part of New Mexico.

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After a rancher brought pieces of the wreckage to the Roswell Army Air Base, an official

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press release stated that it was a flying saucer.

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Within hours, however, the story was changed.

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The public was told a mistake had been made and the crashed object was nothing more than

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an ordinary weather balloon.

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Despite testimonies of scores of reliable witnesses who have since come forward, the

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official stand today, nearly 50 years later, is still that it was just a military weather

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balloon.

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A new Air Force investigation announced its findings just weeks before this broadcast.

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It wasn't a UFO.

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This is what the Air Force is saying after an eight-month investigation of a crash near

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Roswell, New Mexico.

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A crash that occurred 47 years ago.

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For years there have been stories passed along by the residents that what the Air Force

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called a weather balloon was really a UFO and that there were extra terrestrials on board.

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The Air Force tracked down people, combed archives, and even sent some old news photos

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to the CIA for analysis.

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It concluded what other government agencies had concluded for many years.

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There was no conspiracy to hide the truth.

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The amount of dissenting opinion is almost overwhelming among those who have investigated

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the incident and those who were witnesses.

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Don Schmidt, author of UFO Crash at Roswell, has painstakingly researched every angle of

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the Roswell story, including the notion that the Army misidentified a weather balloon as

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a UFO.

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The first press release that it was a flying saucer and six hours later, we're sorry ladies

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and gentlemen, there is no threat.

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There's nothing to be up in arms about.

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It's just a radar reflector device constructed of foil, balsa wood, and bailing twine.

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Even the rancher would have recognized the bailing twine certainly and the rest of the

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material very conventional.

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The very idea that the rancher, the sheriff, the deputies, the intelligence officer, the

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base commander, the counterintelligence officers, the engineers at Roswell, nobody could identify

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foil, sticks, and bailing twine until John O'Raney examines the material and it's just

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a weather balloon.

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The question is which press release is the true story?

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We have over 500 witnesses testifying through sworn affidavit or video deposition that what

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was recovered out here at this site and at the debris field site just 40 miles from here

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was not manufactured on this earth.

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Bob Scherke is one of those witnesses.

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As an Army pilot stationed at Roswell, he got a close look at some of the recovered material

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as it was loaded onto a plane.

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He remembers the report that it was a flying saucer.

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The very next day there was a recant from 8th Air Force saying that it was a weather balloon

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that was found and not an unknown object.

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All I can say to that is that we had weather balloons in base operations because the weather

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station was there also and I would see them carry a balloon out and blow it up and send

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it on its way with a radio sign and so forth.

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What was brought through the building and loaded on the airplane was not the same material.

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It was not a weather balloon.

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One important figure to express skepticism over the continuing balloon story is Congressman

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Stephen Schiff of New Mexico.

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His office has initiated its own investigation into the case.

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He believes official records pertaining to Roswell exist and that these should be made

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available to the public.

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Can you imagine probably the best bomber group in the Army Air Corps saying that a weather

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balloon was a flying saucer?

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That would have been quite an embarrassment and there should be some documentation of

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that going back and forth in Air Force, then Army Air Corps channels about how could this

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happen?

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How could we make such fools out of ourselves if that is in fact what occurred?

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I've asked the General Accounting Office to look for that documentation.

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I've also suggested they look at something else.

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There seems to be no doubt that these materials, when picked up, don't seem to have been treated

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like they were parts of a weather balloon.

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In other words, it seems to be uncontradicted that these materials were flown out of New

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Mexico under armed guard by military police.

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Now weather balloons are not normally shipped under armed guard.

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So I've also suggested they look for the records as to why, who issued instructions suggesting

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that these materials be guarded at gunpoint.

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That is not how you normally see a weather balloon transported.

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Public interest in the Roswell case has reached an all-time high as interest in UFOs in general

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is rising.

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Walter Hort was the Public Information Officer at Roswell, whose job it was to issue the

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official flying saucer press release.

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Hort's Army experience with public information and UFOs has been called upon more recently.

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A couple of years ago, he and some partners opened a non-profit UFO museum in Roswell

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to satisfy a growing curiosity on the subject.

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Radar and visual presentation from all 50 states.

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Several months ago, the Showtime cable network aired a special two-hour movie about Jesse

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Marcel, the intelligence officer sent to investigate the crash.

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Here the major, played by Kyle McLaughlin, arrives at the debris-strewn ranch belonging

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to Matt Brazzel, played by Dwight Yorkems.

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Uh-oh.

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You know those Japanese balloon bombs?

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Yeah.

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Made of rice paper, about 30 feet in diameter.

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They don't come apart when they land unless the bomb goes off, then you can see chart

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marks everywhere.

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Was this gouge here before?

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Nope.

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Let's just suppose Los Alamos or White Sands launch some ultra-experimental plane rocket

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or whatever.

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Maybe out looking for it.

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Maybe the armor, they can't find it, that's happened.

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Sherman, look around you.

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What do you see?

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I mean, what do you see geographically?

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This place may be remote by car, but not by plane.

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You'd have to be blind not to spot this from the air.

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Nobody's found anything because nobody's out looking.

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And that means this ain't ours.

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To better understand the significance of the entire Roswell case, let's go back for

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a moment to early summer, 1947.

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It was less than two years after the end of World War II, the troops had come home.

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America was getting back to work and coming to terms with its new position as a global

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power.

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And the Cold War was heating up.

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In late June and early July, there were a series of strange reports from all over the

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world.

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People were seeing unrecognizable objects flying around with inexplicable trajectories.

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Some appeared to be round discs, others cigar shaped.

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And the stories were not just from ordinary citizens.

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Many reports came from highly trained pilots, both civilian and military.

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New Mexico at the time was home to a number of highly classified military projects.

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On the night of July the 4th, the central part of the state was hit by some of the most

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violent thunderstorms in memory.

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A rancher named Mack Brazell was one of a number of people who heard a loud explosion

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amidst the thunder.

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Investigators have established a sequence of events which then followed.

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July the 5th, Brazell discovers a huge field of very strange, lightweight metallic debris

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on his ranch and the next day he brings it to the sheriff in Roswell.

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They then report the fine to the Army Air Base.

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On July 7th, Brazell takes Major Jesse Marcell and another officer out to the debris field

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where they load up some of the material and bring it back to the base.

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The next morning, troops are sent out to guard the debris field as well as an actual crash

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site 40 miles away.

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After Brazell talks to some local radio stations, Colonel Blanchard, the commander of the base

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at Roswell, dictates a press release saying the Army has captured a flying disk.

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That afternoon the story hits the wires and phone lines in Roswell are jammed.

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But within hours Major Marcell is sent to Fort Worth with some of the debris and there

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General George Ramey gives Marcell some remnants of a weather balloon.

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At a hastily arranged press conference, Ramey says his officers had made a mistake and the

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crashed object was in fact nothing more than a weather balloon with an attached radar reflector.

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And so the case was closed.

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Everyone moved on to other things.

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Just two months later the attention of the nation was riveted on Chuck Yeager as the

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man with the right stuff broke the sound barrier and our own space program was officially

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underway.

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Whatever happened at Roswell was quickly forgotten by all, except those who were actually there.

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One of the most perplexing features of the incident is that the Army at first appeared

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to acknowledge the existence of an extraterrestrial craft, then completely denied it.

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Why didn't anyone question the about face?

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Those who were there have their own theories.

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This was right after the war.

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I say right after, it was a year and a half, but even so everyone who had been in the service

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during the actual war period had been always told, don't talk to anybody, don't tell them

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what you're doing, etc., etc.

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I think you've got to take a couple things into consideration.

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The 509th was a very highly classified organization.

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They were the only ones in the world capable of handling and delivering an atomic weapon.

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If you didn't have a need to know, you didn't ask.

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I was a bombardier amongst other duties.

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I never was permitted to go near an airplane that had the bomb racks capable of handling

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an atomic weapon.

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I never asked to.

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I knew that I wasn't supposed to, so that was the end of it.

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You've got a different frame of mind back in 1947 than you have in 1994.

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Frank Joyce was a radio personality in Roswell at the time and spoke with Rancho MacBrasel.

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He believed national security may have motivated the cover up.

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That was a different era than now.

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You didn't have the complex society that we have now.

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You did not have TVs, camera men as we have scheduled here, a news reporter like yourself

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with a backing of all sorts of people and all the best equipment in the world to report

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everything that happened.

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When a statement came out on the news wire that simply said, it's a weather balloon,

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people were inclined to believe it.

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I don't say these things lightly because I have great respect for our military and

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was at that time very, I would say, as much of a patriot as anyone.

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As I said, given the mindset of people at that time, if you told me it was something

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of national security, I wouldn't talk about it.

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Times were indeed different in 1947.

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This was before the era of Vietnam.

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The 60s in Watergate had not happened, nor the recent savings and loan scandals.

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It wasn't yet common practice to question everything the government did.

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It wasn't until 1978 that the file on Roswell was reopened.

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Stanton Friedman, a nuclear physicist, author and popular lecturer, was the person who stumbled

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upon this extraordinary story.

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In the course of my lecturing, of course, because I take such a strong stand, the lecturers,

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flying saucers are real.

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I'm not an apologist, you're a phologist.

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A lot of people tell me lots of things.

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Once when I was in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, at a television station waiting for a third

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interview where the station managers give me coffee because the girl was late, out of

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the blue, no previous connection, anything we talked about.

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He says, you know, the guy you ought to talk to is Jesse Marcel.

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Who's he?

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Oh, well, he handled pieces of one of these saucers when he was in the military.

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I got my attention as you could imagine.

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As well as he alive, do you know him?

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Oh, yeah, he lives over in Homa.

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I had the faintest idea where Homa, Louisiana was then.

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I've been there since, of course.

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We're old ham radio buddies.

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Great guy.

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Friedman began to look into the case and his findings led to a book, Crash at Corona.

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Others followed his lead and one by one, witnesses who had kept silent for over 30 years began

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coming forward.

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Most people connected with Roswell took their cue from the army and quietly accepted the

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weather balloon story, including the press.

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They staged a launch of a radar reflector from a weather balloon and loudly proclaimed

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fantasy of flying disc is explained here.

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All these pictures deal with this silly little radar reflector on a weather balloon.

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General Ramey gives the explanation.

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Next day they staged the launch.

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The media are there.

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It was out on the wire and that was the end of the flying saucer craziness.

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Those who ask questions were told quite directly, don't.

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The first release, all that material was taken out.

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Some of it, I understand, got into papers in other parts of the country off the original

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release.

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But I spent about 15 or 20 years not knowing whether that was true or not because this

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story was really hushed up.

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I mean it was shut up entirely.

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Jud Roberts managed the radio station in Roswell where Frank Joyce worked.

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He recalls that dropping the entire story wasn't a request.

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It was an order.

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I had a call from Washington the next day right after the news deal had come out and

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saying that if we put anything on the air at all, that they were monitoring us and if

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there was anything on the air at all, frankly, they'd pull our license.

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He wasn't talking about a hearing or anything.

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He said it'll be cancelled not later than tomorrow morning.

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There are many reports of witnesses being threatened or bullied or in the case of military

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personnel being shipped off to remote locations.

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All to keep the lid on this story.

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Nobody knew about this site except some of the civilians involved and they were actually

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threatened into submission.

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The military went to their homes, they sequestered them at the base and reinforced their oaths

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of secrecy with physical threats.

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In other words, you will come to bodily harm if you ever say a word about this.

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When people like Stanton Friedman, Don Smit and others went to federal agencies and began

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probing, one thing they found was that the US government was anything but cooperative

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with information.

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Back in the late 70s went after the CIA, everybody's favorite target.

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We want all your UFO information, we don't have any UFO information, you do too, we do

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not, we appeal, they deny, we go to court.

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The judge says, do a search of your files, gentlemen, at the CIA.

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They come back, oh, we found 900 pages of UFO information.

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After saying they had none, you'll understand.

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I naturally filed with the CIA for their 23 UFO documents.

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They were supposed to respond in 10 working days.

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That's pretty quick and you know what's going on.

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35 months later they responded.

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They agreed to release the first nine.

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I was ecstatic until I looked at them.

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We're talking 23 documents, nine's pretty good.

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They were press abstracts of Eastern European newspaper articles about flying saucers, which

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the Russians had the day they were published.

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Their own 14 documents, they withheld.

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They tried to discourage me from appealing, I appeal.

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Two years after that, so it took me five years, they agreed to release tiny portions of three

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of those documents.

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This is a released CIA UFO document.

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Very informative, there are about eight words or so that you can read there, none of which

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tell you anything.

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Though official information is tough to come by, investigators press onward, inspired perhaps

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by increasing public curiosity.

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As time goes by, public interest seems to be anything but diminishing.

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In fact, it's just the opposite.

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There appears to be a growing desire by citizens to get whatever information the government

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has on Roswell.

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The popular scientific monthly, Omni Magazine, recently featured a Roswell declaration in

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which readers were invited to join the petition for any information the government may have.

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There is an ever growing pile of books, articles and videos relating to Roswell.

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It's clear that people want to know.

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So the question is, why are they still withholding all this information?

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Why the cover up after all these years?

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If you had some sort of a national security situation, people just wouldn't talk about

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it.

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You can't imagine any kind of security need from the year of 1947, which may have been

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valid then, being still valid almost 50 years later.

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What crashed near Roswell was a mystery in 1947.

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It's no less a mystery today.

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We joined the voices of those who asked of the truth, be told.

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Was it a secret government experiment?

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Was it a crashed ship from another world?

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Or was it, as the Air Force says, nothing more than a simple weather balloon?

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I'm Patrick McNeigh.

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Join me next time for more mysteries, magic and miracles.